Redating the exodus
Just wait until my book comes out.” He does make occasional gestures in the direction of an argument—e.g., claiming that “There actually were Christian sects that said Jesus lived a hundred years earlier” or stating that Jesus probably was not from Nazareth—but he doesn’t put these together into a coherent argument.I could try to form one out of the pieces he gives us and then critique it, but he could always say, “You’re attacking a straw man.
These documents are nowhere near so late as Carrier seems to think, but even setting that aside, what can we learn from Paul?So how does Paul indicate that Jesus related to the others?Paul indicates that some of them were his brothers.1:3) and “born of woman, born under the Law [of Moses]” (Gal. This clearly indicates Jesus’ birth as a Jew who belonged to the lineage of David (and who, as well, had both flesh and a woman as his mother).All this indicates that Jesus was a real, historical individual. And, in 1 Timothy he writes that Jesus “made the good confession..his testimony before Pontius Pilate” (1 Tim. Some would challenge the last document as post-Pauline, though not the former two, and the former two provide further indications that Jesus was a historical individual who gave instructions to his followers on a specific night, on which he was then betrayed; who was killed through the agency of earthly individuals, who also killed the prophets and drove Paul and others out of Judea (cf. ); and who was then “buried.” This is all consistent with the idea that Jesus was a historical individual who lived, died, and was buried on earth, and there is no indication of this taking place in “the lower heavens.” Carrier acknowledges that the same logic used to support the existence of a historical Jesus also points to the existence of a historical Muhammad as the founder of Islam.
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), but Paul acknowledges that his relationship was different than that of the other apostles, that he related to Jesus as “one untimely born” (1 Cor.